2. Database related issues
Large Oracle APPS Database
From: Michael Foret[SMTP:michaelforet@mindspring.com]
Sent: Friday, June 11, 1999 8:47 AM
Subject: Large Oracle APPS Database
DBA's,
My current client is a large insurance company implementing Oracle
Financials (GL, AP, PO, AR, CM, FA). Their requirement is to be able to
post approximately 30M GL transactions per month, in a batch load from
multiple legacy systems. Their current platform is IBM SP2 nodes which
have a maximum of 4 processors and 2GB of ram. We are currently
recommending that they increase their hardware to an S70 which has a max
of 12 processors and 6GB (I think).
Is anyone running a system relatively close to the throughput required?
If so what platform is it on? What are your biggest bottlenecks? How
big can we expect the database to get?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:35:18 -0500
From: Michael Foret michaelforet@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: Large Oracle APPS Database
Mark,
Thanks for your reply, the answers follow:
Mark W. Farnham wrote:
Mark) Is that averaging 1M a day over the course of a month, or will you be
getting 30M in the last day or two?
Michael) Almost all of it will come in the last couple days, from legacy systems
that capture it from different parts of the company.
Mark) There is over an order of magnitude difference in these two requirements.
What other work must continue during the GL transaction loads? Can
everything else be shut down so the load is exclusively GL import and
journal posting, or is 75% of the machine already consumed by interative
reporting, manual corrections, re-posting, and re-reporting?
Michael) This machine will be, for the most part, a dedicated machine. I would
guess that the load should be able to consume about 75% of the total
machine without impacting the rest of the day-to-day processes.
Mark) Is open gl period a part of your time critical phase? If so, how many code
combinations do you have? Do you use summary accounts?
Michael) I'm assuming so, but I don't know for sure. We will have somewhere in
the neighborhood of 30M combos. I would think so but I haven't
confirmed with the functional people.
Mark) These are just a few of the questions that come to mind. In addition, you
are likely to be disk i/o bound in several parts of your process unless you
have done object placement tuning.
I don't believe I could responsibly offer an off the cuff answer.
Good luck and best wishes,
Mark W. Farnham
President
Rightsizing, Inc.
mwf@rsiz.com
NCA: Remote Access
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:48:11 -0500
From: "Gregg Ney (s)" gney@cap.org
Subject: NCA: Remote Access
We are upgrading from 10.7SC to 10.7NCA. Currently we have some
telecommuting users accessing the system via Citrix. The performance with
running a browser in Citrix is unacceptable, but our security folks don't
want to open the door to the whole world by using external browser access.
Has anyone out there found a resolution to this problem?
Thanks in advance
Gregg Ney
Project Manager, Oracle Applications
College of American Pathologists
847/832-7276 gney@cap.org
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:14:34 -0400
From: "Yadav, Surendra S." Surendra.Yadav@wang.com
Subject: RE: Remote Access
Hi Gregg:
It depends on what OS you have as your middle tier. We have NT and hence
tried the following options :
1) We use Windows Terminal Server at some remote sites and the performance
is acceptable (defn of 'acceptable' varies everywhere, though). WTS has less
overheads than Citrix and is cheaper and easy to maintain. We have set up
WTS on one of the NCA Servers which is normally used for remote users only.
2) The other option we explored before was using Netscape 4.5 (instead of
Appletviewer) from a remote site and I was amazed by the performance over a
standard dial-up connection. It didn't materialize with our company, since
corporate wants us to use only Microsoft products.
3) Oracle Support uses pcAnywhere which is another option we had explored,
but did not find it as stable and secure as WTS.
Let me know if you need any specifics.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:01:04 -0400
From: ?iso-8859-1?Q?Paul_VallE9e? pvlists@pythian.com
Subject: Re: Remote Access
I can access our client's systems using NCA over a Red Creek VPN
(http://www.redcreek.com). Works wonderfully if the bandwidth is there - I can't tell
the difference when we're onsite vs. offsite.
They have a software product, RavlinSoft, that you can install on specific laptops or
home computers only. 3DES (munitions grade) encryption, quite secure.
Best,
Paul
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 12:33:21 -0500
From: "Fischer, Craig J." FischerCJ@bvsg.com
Subject: RE: Remote Access
We are running 11.0.3 and also have several telecommuters. Our site has a
Windows NT RAS server that authorized people can dial into; once connected,
they can use their browser just like they're at work. Another option is to
use VPN, which basically does the same thing, except that the user has to
connect to their ISP first (probably overkill for locally-based
telecommuters, but great for people that would otherwise make long-distance
calls).
I'm guessing that the security folks were reluctant to poke a hole in the
firewall to allow browser access to anything on the company network, and I
would tend to agree with them; but using a RAS server should be no less
secure than the current dial-up Citrix server is, in my opinion.
Craig Fischer
BV Solutions Group
fischercj@bvsg.com
Oracle Db with Apps 1o.7 on Ux 11
Bambang Sugijono bsugijon@sampoerna.co.id
Date : mercredi 23 juin 1999 03:34
Objet : a simple question
Dear all,
I use Oracle Financial 10.7 with O/S HP-UX 10.20 and Oracle Database =
7.3.2.
But I have a plan to copy this application and all data to new machine =
with
O/S Hp-UX 11.
My Question :
1. Can Oracle Financial 10.7 run in HP-UX 11 ?
2. Can I copy all application and data from HP-UX 10.20 to HP-UX 11
(compatible or not)
Thanks for your help.
Bambang Sugijono
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:40:29 +0200
From: "Olivier Opposite" oopposit@capgemini.fr
Subject: Re: a simple question
You need Oracle 7.3.4 (Y2K compliant) for HP-UX 11
Olivier OPPOSITE - Cap Gemini France
Business Unit Oracle Applications
Email: oopposit@capgemini.fr
Phone: +33 (03) 20 19 37 91 - Fax: +33 (03) 20 19 37 80
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 09:47:41 -0700
From: "AmyTse" amy@idec.com
Subject: RE: a simple question
You need to reinstall Oracle Application on HP-UX 11 since
HP-UX 11 is incompatible with HP-UX 10.20 at the object file
level.
Amy
Synchronizing Production and Test DB
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 10:09 -0500
From: "Richard du Feu" Richardd@care.ca
Subject: DB: Synchronizing Production and Test DB
Hi,
I have a question regarding the best way to refresh our test database
with our production database data. We are on R11.02 and a 8.0.4.1.3
database on NT. Once a month we want to refresh our production DB
data into our Test DB to keep it somewhat current.
What practices do some of you do ?
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 17:39:06 +0100
From: wbizri@sa.ibm.com
Subject: Re: DB: Synchronizing Production and Test DB
The best way is to write a script that shut both databases, then copies the
physical datafiles from your production to your test instance.
1. Make sure you have a backup.
2. While test database is running, run the following command from svrmgr80
alter database backup control to trace;
then edit the the trace file which will be in orant/rdbms80/trace. Rename
the file as re_create.sql
3. Shutdown both database
4. Copy datafile of your production database to the location of the
datafiles for your test database.
5. Remove the control files for your test database
6. From the test database, run svrmgr80, then connect internal, and run the
above script "re_create.sql"
7. You now have test similar to production.
Best Regards,
Wael A. Bizri
Professional Services Consultant
IBM, Saudi Arabia
Checkpoint firewall for OraApps and Oracle Discoverer
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 1999 18:37:16 +0000
From: Gary Wright gary.wright@experian.com
Subject: Techie NCA question - not for the faint hearted!!!
We are currently using Oracle Apps 10.7 NCA on Solaris 2.6 servers.
We also employ Discoverer (also using Web Server 3.0.1.8).
Can ANYONE (Oracle can't) tell me how we can configure a Checkpoint
firewall for Oracle Apps and Oracle Discoverer ???
Many Thanks,
Gary.
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 10:05:05 -0700
From: skirby@bco.com
Subject: RE: Techie NCA question - not for the faint hearted!!!
We have looked at the same problem, but we have not implemented it so I'd
love to hear more information if what I suggest doesn't work.
I will take a shot and say that your Database Server is behind the firewall
and the Forms/Web server is in front of the firewall.
You will need to open your SQL port (typically 1521) for the database
connection back to the server.
Other than that you should be fine.
IF you are trying to run both the Forms server and the DB behind the
firewall then there may be some issues I don't know about but I would start
with:
Your www port. Default is 80, but most implementation I have seen
use a different one. We use 5000 for dev, 5001, for test and 5002 for prod.
Your Forms server port. This will vary too. We are using 9000,
9001, 9002 for the various instances.
For Discoverer I *think* you will need port 1521, but I am not
certain. I haven't had to do much work with that tool.
I'd love to hear how it goes, and if this doesn't work how you fixed it.
If you have the time the ideal way to trouble shoot this would be to put a
sniffer on the same segment as the client and look at the ports that it is
requesting.
Steve
Multiple instances on same machine
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 19:25:19 -0700
From: R Bhandarkar ak494@xoommail.com
Subject: multiple instances on same machine
Hi gurus,
We are on Oracle 7.3.4 SC 16.1. We want to have multiple
databases on same machine viz. test , development and an
instance for patch testing. Can u tell me how to handle this
with respect to software ? Do u have separate oracle & apps
software for each instance ? If yes how is ur filesystem
structure like ?
TIA
Raja
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:15:00 -0400
From: NSmith@micros.com
To: R Bhandarkar ak494@xoommail.com,
Subject: RE: multiple instances on same machine
Raja,
You can setup up your apps several ways. For instance, all instances can share
the same executables or have their own (DB server and APPS). Keep in mind
though that if your apps share the same executables, your patches that impact
the GUI and executables will potentially cause problems.
If you have the disk space I would recommend having separate executables for
both the DB server and the apps.
Nothing special about the filesystem structure other than making sure that your
environment variables (i.e. ORACLE_HOME, APPL_TOP, etc...) will need to reflect
the placement of your software. We use scripts at login to select the instance
the user is going to access.
Best Regards,
Neil Smith
MICROS Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 19:27:26 -0500
From: "Uptmore, Chris" uptmorec@kci1.com
Subject: RE: Multiple instances on the same machine
1-$ORACLE_HOME, 3-$APPL_TOPs
FYI,
Chris
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 20:00:34 EDT
From: Nikora@aol.com
Subject: Re: Multiple instances on the same machine
First decide if all the applications will be at the same level of Oracle
Version
If so then you can point the ORACLE_HOME of the 3 APPL_TOPs to be the
same common one.
George
Multiple Languages - same database
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:01:02 -0700
From: skirby@bco.com
Subject: NLS- Different Forms Servers
We were planing on setting up one forms server to be a Spanish Forms server.
The idea was to have one set of forms that the Spanish speaking employees
could use.
What I thought I could do was to create an English only database and report
tier and only install Spanish for the forms tier. Unfortunately they are a
bit more closely tied than I had thought and my forms installation forces
the database to think it is now a Spanish system.
I *think* I understand what a typical NLS system looks like (You run
everything in say ... Spanish) I think I understand MLS (with multiple
character sets) to a degree (You customize the crap out of the system to
reference languages based on user profiles I have no clue how you keep
patches current on such a system.) My questions lies with multiple
languages using the same character set.
I assume a number of other people are running multiple WE8ISO8859P1
languages under the same database. Is it a matter of installing each
language you want to use onto *all* tiers? Is patching an issue? e.g. Do I
need special patches that address every language? And the big one .. does
Oracle support this?
I have talked to Oracle about this, and the official line I have gotten is
"no we do not support multiple languages ... contact Oracle Consulting
Services", but I am sure others are doing this now.
Steve Kirby
skirby@bco.com
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 10:01:48 -0400
From: "Mark Conger" mconger@invacare.com
Subject: Re: NLS- Different Forms Servers
Hiya!
We've been fighting this issue with Oracle for about as long as 10.7 has
actually been out. Here's what we found....
First, we run the WE8ISO8859P1 character set and have need to run European
French, European Spanish, and Germanic under one instance to support our
european operations. After beating on Oracle severely the final outcome was that
you may run multiple languages like this as long as they are within the same
Character set. They are in the process of putting that in writing for us now :)
at this point its IS just a matter of setting up all the teers with ALL the
languages we want to run. You will need to have a separate forms server process
running for each language so that they each have a unique NLS_LANG environment
variable that indicates the language that particular forms server process
handles. Lastly I'm told we have to set some profile values indicating what
language the user wants to use and then you're done.
Patching will be a complete nightmare. We've not worked it out completely, but
the info coming out of US support is we ahve to call in and request the patch be
ported to the specific language. So, get all currently applied patches ported to
ALL the languages and then get all the tiers up to date patchwise on each
language. Then when you go get a patch, you have to get it for every language
and apply it all simultaneously. It's looking like a Nightmare to be sure.
Mark Conger
Invacare
Instance Name - Change
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:12:21 -0400
From: "McElhinny, Steve A." Steve.McElhinny@alcoa.com
Cc: "Lacy, Mike J." Mike.Lacy@alcoa.com
Subject: NCA: URGENT! Changed Instance Name Problems
All -
We are in testing mode on 10.7 NCA, and needed to change our db instance name
from "p47" to "prdaac". We did the following things:
1. Database
2. All start/stop scripts
3. Web listener
4. Html file called from the appletviewer
5. /etc/oratab
6. $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/listener.ora
7. $ORACLE_HOME/network/admin/tnsnames.ora
8. All directories housing the database....../u01/oradata/p47 etc.
We are now unable to get the appletviewer started - we receive an error
dialog with the following message:
SECURITY-INVALID USERID
(USERNAME=applsyspub)
(PASSWORD=pub) (DATABASE=prdaac)
Anyone see any obvious errors or omissions in our list? Any help would be
greatly appreciated!
Steve McElhinny
Steve.McElhinny@alcoa.com
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 16:23:24 -0500
From: "Logan, Ernie" Ernie_Logan@bmc.com
Cc: "'Steve.McElhinny@alcoa.com'" Steve.McElhinny@alcoa.com
Subject: RE: URGENT! Changed Instance Name Problems
Look at your DBC files in $FND_TOP/secure. Your problem lies there. You must
rename the .dbc file, and edit the TWO_TASK variable contained therein.
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 17:48:03 -0400
From: "McElhinny, Steve A." Steve.McElhinny@alcoa.com
Subject: RE: URGENT! Changed Instance Name Problems
Thanks for the speedy response. We were OK with the .dbc file, but
found one TNS entry that had been missed, so we have it working again.
cursor_space_for_time parameter
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:59:28 -0500
From: Bharat Patel bpatel@DOMINOAMJET.com
Subject: share_pool and cursor_space_for_time parameter
Hi Guys, I am planning to put cursor_space_for_time = TRUE in my init.ora
file to speed up the sql statement. I have 75MB sized shared pool .
Below are my output of SGA
---------------------------------------------
SGA Cache Hit Ratio
data block buffer hit ratio : 98.406675 shared sql pool
dictionary hit ratio : ,98.680185
shared sql buffers (library cache)
cache hit ratio : 98.495444
avg. users/stmt : 4.8416523
avg.executes/stmt : 610.42398
Below are my share pool statistics;
-----------------------------------------------------
Shared Pool Library Cache Information
size :75000000
used (total) :70965028
sharable :53220565
persistent :2414344
runtime :16709048
available :4034972
number of sql statments :2162
number of programmatic constructs :8323
pinned statments :1941
pinned statments size :62320939
I am looking for pros and cons on it.
thanks.
Bharat Patel
D.B.A.
bpatel@dominoamjet.com
847-244-2501 ex 1249
System Performance very slow
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:43:01 GMT
From: Sunthar T sunthart@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: HELP on Performance issue.
Hi all,
We are facing a weard problem like the system
performance will be very
slow and whenever we flush the shared pool, within a
couple of minutes it
comes to normal state. Do you have any idea about
this issue. Please let me
know if you all have any suggestions or solution.
We are running APPS10.7 in Solaris 2.5.1. This is
happening after our
upgrade from 10.6 to 10.7
TIA,
Sun...
From: Raj Pasupuleti rpasupuleti@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, June 07, 1999 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: HELP on Performance issue.
When You flush the Shared pool you're clearing all the Objects which
are currently in the memory. Right after you flush have your commonly
used packages be pinned.
I do this at my client's asset management ERP after the Cold Backup.
Raj
From: Binh Pham [mailto:Binh.Pham@jpl.nasa.gov]
Sent: dinsdag 8 juni 1999 17:30
Subject: Re: HELP on Performance issue.
Or, sometimes you must flush it after users encounter some Oracle ORA
error
(I forgot the exact error messages) that seems to indicate that there is
not
enough memory to load packages for execution. This is a only viable
solution before you can change the shared pool size and bounce the
instance.
From: Worthington, S. [SMTP:S.Worthington@ahpg.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: HELP on Performance issue.
That error is the 4031 error: "unable to allocate %s bytes of shared
memory".
There are a few things you can do with the problem originally described.
First thing to try is increasing the shared_pool_size by 50% (or to at
least
60Mb), and set shared_pool_reserved_size to at least 10Mb.
HTH, Stu
From: Philip West Philip.West@exco.co.uk
Subject: RE: HELP on Performance issue.
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 03:51:02 -0400 (EDT)
Use adxckpin to check what is in the shared pool. After a 4031 you will
normally see that a [smaller] package has been successfully loaded into the
pool but its [smaller] package body has not. Check your pool and the size
and number of large objects that are being called. Then you can pin
objects
at database startup and/or set shared_pool_reserved_size and
shared_pool_reserved_min_alloc to sizes that reflect you requirements. If
database performance is poor you should be looking at the hit ratios on the
pool and probably boosting the size of the SGA.
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:43:01 GMT
From: Sunthar T sunthart@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: HELP on Performance issue.
Friends,
Thanks a lot for all your help in helping me to solve the performance
problem. With your advise & guidelines, we drilled the database and able to
achieve the +ve result. Now our database is in
a very good stable state.
Thanks,
$un...
Autostarting Db in Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 00:12:24 +0500
From: S V MANSATA kunal@blr.vsnl.net.in
To: oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca
Subject: significance of command option
hi all
in linux for autostarting the database , we can either create a symbolic
link in the rc3.d directory
(path /etc/rc.d/rc3.d) starting with a capital S or even include the
following in the /etc/rc.d/rc file
su - ORACLE_OWNER -c sh dbstart
what does the -c option do, i would like to know what significance that
option has got
thanks in advance
promeet
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:41:33 -0500
From: Alan Hyland alan_hyland@saan.ca
To: oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca
Subject: Re: significance of command option
The su (switch user) command allows you to create a new shell session as
the userid specified, in this case ORACLE_OWNER. You are prompted for
the userid's password unless you're running as root. The - before the
userid means the same environment configuration files (/etc/profile,
$HOME/.profile, $HOME/.cshrc, etc.) that are used when logging in to
that userid are used in the new session that is created. The -c option
allows you to specify a command to run. After this command is executed,
the new shell session exits, returning control to your original shell
session. If the -c option is not used, a shell prompt appears.
In the case of your su command, a new shell session is started as
ORACLE_OWNER with the same environment as a login by ORACLE_OWNER,
the command "sh dbstart" is run, the new session exits, and control is
returned to the shell session that executed the su. The "sh dbstart"
command just runs the shell script "dbstart".
Alan Hyland
Systems Programmer
SAAN Stores Ltd.
Citrix with 11NCA
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:38:46 EDT
From: Bnraju@aol.com
To: oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca
Subject: citrix with 11NCA
Hello friends,
Could any body configured citrix Server with 11.0 NCA ??
Appreciate your comments, any info about the above configurations, issues
etc.,
Advanced Thanks
bnraju
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:09:07 -0400
From: Margaret Murray mmurray@delorme.com
To: "'oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca'" oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca
Subject: RE: citrix with 11NCA
Hi Bnraju,
We are running 11.02 NCA on Citrix - primarily for our off-site users.
While it does work, there are major problems with this configuration:
1) Citrix (for now) only runs on NT 3.5.1, not particularly Y2K compliant or
stable. Rumors of it being included in NT 5? 6? 2000? (whatever) are still
rumors.
2) Citrix users run slower than "plain" NCA clients - one example is the
signon screen takes 20-30 seconds to come up on our NCA configuration.
Through Citrix it's over a minute. Other screens show this same ratio
(nearly twice as slow). (If you need all the technicalities of why it's
slower, I can write those another time).
3) The major advantages of Citrix is it allows central client patch
application (with NCA it's already central) and central rollout. With the
Jinititor and standard Web Browser (not the Applet Viewer), you can have
central rollout of new versions.
4) Citrix is not certified for use with NCA (though I'm not sure it's
certified for 10.7 SC either).
Our reason for using Citrix is that for our few off-site users (less than
5), the Citrix configuration is faster than running the NCA client on the
laptop across the modem. We already purchased Citrix for 10.7 SC, so
continuing to use it has cost us little extra (just admin time). I would
not purchase it specifically for WAN usage. So far, we've had little trouble
with stability, though we haven't done any Y2K testing. We are testing
various other configurations (using a VPN) in order to get away from using
Citrix.
HTH,
Margaret Murray, DBA
DeLorme Mapping
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 12:30:22 -0500
From: "Fischer, Craig J." FischerCJ@bvsg.com
To: "'oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca'" oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca
Subject: RE: citrix with 11NCA
We are running 11.0.3 currently, but upgraded from a 10.7 Prod 16.1 setup
using Citrix. As a general rule, the NCA architecture removes the need for
a product such as Citrix WinFrame. WinFrame's main benefits were
centralized administration (NCA has this), minimal client PC setup (NCA has
this), low bandwidth requirements (NCA mostly has this) and the ability to
run on almost any speed PC (NCA does NOT have this).
I would think that the money spent to upgrade any end users' PCs to a
PII-233 w/ 64 MB of RAM or better would make more sense than implementing
Citrix. One other problem is that Citrix is not supported by Oracle, and I
don't think it ever has been (although they acknowledge that people are
using it).
However, if for some reason using Citrix is necessary, I recommend using
Microsoft Windows Terminal Server instead. Since WinFrame is built on top
of Windows NT 3.51, there are more likely to be compatibility issues
compared to NT Terminal Server, which is based on NT 4.0. Unfortunately, NT
Terminal Server is licensed on a named user basis (WinFrame can be licensed
on a concurrent user basis), so implementing it for a large number of users
can be quite expensive.
We have had no problem using NCA over a WAN or a 31.2k modem; if the JAR
files are already cached, it's difficult to tell that you're not connected
to the LAN. Citrix had better performance in some respects, but overall
they're both fine.
In short, I don't think it's worth the time or effort to use a Citrix or NT
Terminal Server middle tier with the NCA architecture. NCA provides most of
their benefits and is fully supported by Oracle.
Craig Fischer
BV Solutions Group
fischercj@bvsg.com
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 09:47:32 +0100
From: Philip West Philip.West@exco.co.uk
To: oraapps-dba@cpa.qc.ca
Subject: RE: citrix with 11NCA
I would only say that Oracle do implicitly support using Winframe in certain
areas; witness the fact that the GLDI installation includes detailed
instructions for setting up GLDI on a Winframe server.
Best Regards
Phil West - Oracle Financials DBA
Telephone: 44 171 9509385
E-mail: philip.west@exco.co.uk
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 12:07:17 -0500
From: "Fischer, Craig J." FischerCJ@bvsg.com
Subject: RE: citrix with 11NCA
I agree completely, and would add that I've heard Oracle uses/used WinFrame
internally for 10 SC in certain areas. Nonetheless, I don't believe Oracle
Apps itself has ever been certified on WinFrame and so support would
probably refuse to help solve problems unless they could be duplicated on a
supported platform.
I think they eventually did realize that lots of people wanted/needed to use
WinFrame for things like the ADI/GLDI that must remain strictly
client-server; this is probably why they started supporting those
configurations.
Craig Fischer
BV Solutions Group
fischercj@bvsg.com