Installation of HR after GL
From: Barnett, Janet L. jlbarnet@mountaineergas.com
To: OraHRMS-L@mail-list.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 8:38 AM
Subject: [orahrms-l] Gl before HR
I know I have asked this question before, but I can't find my responses.
What if any, are the implications of implementing GL before HR? I
thought you had to have at least
a skeleton HR system in place.
Thanks for any advice.
Janet Barnett
Mountaineer Gas Company
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 08:31:34 -0400
From:
"Ken Conway" ken.conway@bosscorporation.com Multi-country HR install
From:
Deborah_Southmayd@Millipore.com
From: "Scott Frost" sfrost@noblestar.com
To: "Barnett, Janet L." jlbarnet@mountaineergas.com
Cc:
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] Gl before HR
Hi Janet-
I presented a paper last year at the NCOAUG titled 'Strategies for
Implementing Oracle HRMS after Oracle Financials'. It illustrates some of
the key touch points between the Financials and HRMS modules. Specific to
GL, you must make certain that your Cost Allocation Key Flexfield in HRMS
maps to your GL Accounting flexfield.
There are other impacts on other modules, especially once modules begin to
require employee data, so you must ensure that you do not have people
setting up employees without HR input.
I worked at a client that had implemented HR functionality last (even after
payroll) and unfortunately, with some business processes, they were bottle
necked because of other setups that were done in Financials and payroll
modules earlier by other groups, by ignoring the needs of HR. This is the
case of the client I am at now, and almost every other client I have worked
with.
Thus, it is extremely critical in my mind to involve the HR departments from
the beginning of any implementation, and at least get HRMS started with the
Key Flexfield foundations in conjunction with the other modules.
All too often, people push HRMS aside, and the consequences can be mind
numbing...
If you would like a copy of the paper, please let me know, and I can email
it to you.
(With the permission of Scott, his paper can be seen on this very site by
clicking here
You can also view an ONLINE version at the NCOAUG website at this URL:
http://www.darc.com/ncoaug/hr_after/
Thanks and good luck!
Scott
Scott Frost
Oracle HRMS Consultant
Noblestar Systems Corporation
703.464.4000 x2549
Tue 7:36 PM
Subject:
Re: [orahrms-l] Gl before HR
To:
"Barnett, Janet L." jlbarnet@mountaineergas.com
Janet:
Recently, I completed a project where we brought Oracle HR/Payroll live
after Financials. This became the foundation for our upcoming OAUG paper in
Orlando entitled "Challenges Implementing Oracle HR/Payroll After
Financials". Here are some of my conclusions.
GL really has little impact on HR decisions. The HR/FinApps issue is
different when you talk about some of the other Financial modules such as AP
and PO. Generally, I prefer HR before or simultaneous to several of the
Financial modules. However, I prefer Payroll after or simultaneous to GL
because it let's me know that the GL Accounting Flexfield is truly stable
before you start making payroll costing decisions with Organizations,
Earnings, Deductions, etc.
Hope this helps,
Ken
Ken Conway
BOSS Corporation
Better Organization Service Solutions
(214) 495-7654 Voice
(214) 495-7543 Fax
www.bosscorporation.com
29 Aug 1999 8:55 PM
Subject:
[orahrms-l] Input desired on multi-country HR installs
Millipore, a multinational organization, is planning to implement the
Oracle HR application (Rel. 10.7) in 2000 at all of our worldwide
locations. Payroll will continue to be outsourced with Ceridian.
We would like to talk to any companies who have HR installed in multiple
countries (Oracle financials and related applications are a plus!).
Specific topics of interest surround the set up of business group(s) ,
organizations, currencies, language, GRE, 3rd praty payroll interface,,
conversion of new/fractional history, European Union and the Euro, etc..
Please respond to this email or call Donna Barry at 781-533-2111 or Deb
Southmayd at 781-533-2534.