Salary Admin Patch-WARNING
From: "Kevin Jarrett" kejarr@copelco.com
To: OraHRMS-L@mail-list.com
Subject: [orahrms-l] *WARNING* HR-ONLY SALARY ADMIN PATCH *WARNING*
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:55:31 -0400
Folks,
I see the subject of the salary admin patch has come up. FYI...
We are in a P1 with Oracle WWS right now due to applying "a salary admin
patch" (is there only one?) to our production system. Basically, we
determined we needed a new version of the salary form due to a few
anomalies that we were seeing in everyday processing. Rounding errors,
basically. Nothing major, but the form version was clearly old, and we
determined after speaking with OWWS that a patch was the right way to go.
Big mistake. At least it was for us, given our setup. This is a cautionary
tale, so take it for whatever it's worth.
We had many, many problems with the initial salary admin patch. (We are HR
only+Ceridian Interface, 10.7SC/16.1, Unix) We found at least two (possibly
three) new bugs with each revised attempt. Eventually we got to where we
thought we were safe and solid in our test instance. Confident that we
tested the new form thoroughly, we applied the patch to the production
server.
When we applied the client-side patches, we discovered none of our SECURE
USERS could access data in the new salary form. The "see all do all" user
had no problems. We had blown away our users' ability to enter salary
changes in production. Cool, or what? :/
Fortunately, our workaround was to have our HR administrator (see all do
all powers) handle all things related to salaries while we figure out
what's up. OWWS is pretty sure it's a grant issue, but we were up all night
fighting with the best and brightest minds at Oracle, all for naught (so
far). We're still in the heat of battle on this.
We do have a very unusual environment (two sets of books, pre multi-org no
less) and we had huge problems with SECURE USER stuff when we went live
this past January (some objects supposed to be owned by APPS were owned by
APPS2). It appears to be coming back to bite us. Please, if you apply the
salary admin patch, TEST IT USING ALL YOUR SECURE USER RESPONSIBILITIES
before applying to production.
This has been a public service announcement. We now return you to your
regularly scheduled e-mail.
-kj-
p.s. All of a sudden, staying up all night isn't as much fun as it was in
college. Why -is- that?
Tax Balance Adjustment
Subject: [orahrms-l] Tax Balance Adjustment
From: "Jarnutowski, George J." JarnGJ@jea.com
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 19:11:36 -0400
Cc: "Hawkins, Toni M. - Manager, Payroll" HawkAM@jea.com
We are on 10.7 SC and I know how to adjust Employee SS and Medicare balance
on the Tax Balance Adjustment Form, but where/how do you do it for Employer
balance?
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] Tax Balance Adjustment
From: "J. Chang" ch_chang@hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 22:19:54 GMT
Cc: HawkAM@jea.com
George,
'Adjust Balance' Form allows the adjustment of any balance using a specific
adjustment element which should be set up at the time the adjustment is
needed.
Joe
Customize Person Form
Subject: [orahrms-l] Customizing the PERSON form in Oracle HR
From: "Kevin Jarrett" kejarr@copelco.com
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:26:51 -0400
Happy Wednesday everyone,
We have a requirement that non-employees be added into our HR database
(don't ask why, okay? Thanks) . We plan to create a dedicated "person type"
(i.e., non-employee) and use the Person Form to enter the records when
non-employees arrive, and to change their status when they leave (to
"ex-non-employee").
My questions are as follows:
Could we set up a custom task flow consisting of ONLY the person form,
without the Address, Picture, Assignment, Special Info, or Others buttons?
None of this information will be captured or will apply.
If we can do so, could this form be programmed ONLY to "see" (and input)
non-employee person types?
We would like a non-HR staffer (say, in operations) to have the capability
to enter and maintain these records without giving them full HR application
access. We (in HR) also would rather not have anything to do with the
records, as they are non-employees by definition.
Thanks in advance,
-kj-
Kevin Jarrett Copelco Capital, Inc.
E-Commerce Project Manager Mount Laurel, NJ USA
kejarr@copelco.com http://www.copelco.com
Subject: RE: [orahrms-l] Customizing the PERSON form in Oracle HR
From: "Schwartz, Ken" kschwar@rwjf.org
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:37:02 -0400
KJ:
What you described is what I would have suggested.
The only thing additional I would do is set up a separate responsibility
(Non Employee Data Entry or some such). I might also consider a separate
business group as long as you don't have any requirements to make a non
employee an employee.
Please contact me directly if you need additional information.
Regards,
Ken Schwartz
Independent Consultant
Specializing in Oracle HRMS
Site: 609-720-7529
Cell: 404-226-6334
Mail: kenschwartz@mindspring.com
Site Mail: kschwartz@rwjf.org
Subject: [orahrms-l] FW: [orahrms-l] Customizing the PERSON form in Oracle HR
From: "Roberts, Mike" mike_roberts@nrel.gov
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 07:45:56 -0600
It would be ideal if you are able to give these non employees User Name a
System Name of External. However, this would eliminate the ability to add
an assignment or an employee number to the person which may conflict with
the business requirement. If these non employees are buyers in
Purchasing, they must have an employee number which brings on a whole new
set of issues which I am working through right now. In 10.7 SC, the form
"customization" is quite easy and does NOT require assistance from
development. You will need two "custom" forms if you want HR not to see
the Non Employees. Contact me directly if you need assistance with the
form customization.
Michael Roberts
Softec Solutions, Inc.
Subject: RE: [orahrms-l] Customizing the PERSON form in Oracle HR
From: "Kevin Jarrett" kejarr@copelco.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 10:16:46 -0400
Mike,
Thanks for the feedback, I will definitely be contacting you shortly. We're
close, but not quite there.
We have no need for assignment data and plan to only save records via the
person form so the consultant's name is associated with a valid PERSON_ID.
So far I have been successful setting up a separate business group,
responsibility, and task flow. Records are being saved to the database.
We're almost there.
I created two person types (Active Non-Employee and Inactive Non-Employee,
both External system classifications) and it's working like a charm, other
than I had to rename the system person types of "Employee" and
"Ex-Employee" to something bogus to prevent the users from assigning them
one of these person types. I wish I could disable these items from
displaying at all but that appears impossible.
The only thing I am struggling with now is removing the buttons (address,
picture, assignment, etc.) from the taskflow. I see where this is done --
checkboxes on the task flow definition window. I tried but can't seem to
get the buttons off! I am working with a copy of the US HR TASKFLOW.
Otherwise everything appears to be working fine.
Working with task flows appears very simple, and I feel like a real dolt at
the moment. Any clues would be appreciated!
-kj-
Kevin Jarrett Copelco Capital, Inc.
E-Commerce Project Manager Mount Laurel, NJ USA
kejarr@copelco.com http://www.copelco.com
Subject: RE: [orahrms-l] Customizing the PERSON form in Oracle HR
From: "Roberts, Mike" mike_roberts@nrel.gov
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:37:40 -0600
In the Navigation Options block, click on the node that you want to remove
and push the big red delete button and save. You may have to sign on again
to realize the change.
Mike
Subject: RE: [orahrms-l] Customizing the PERSON form in Oracle HR
From: "Roberts, Mike" mike_roberts@nrel.gov
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:41:08 -0600
Can you explain what you mean by "I had to rename the system person
types of "Employee" and
"Ex-Employee" to something bogus to prevent the users from assigning
them
one of these person types." I may be able to help you with this problem.
Mike
Balances - Viewing effective
Subject: [orahrms-l] Viewing effective Balances
From: Ranga rajan ranga_2000@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 02:17:46 -0700 (PDT)
I am using Oracle Payroll 10.7 SC.
I want to generate effective balance for a high priority element as a
first step.
In the second step I want to use the effective balance generated in the
first step for another formula based low priority element.
Is it possible to do this during the same process? Does the balances
get updated during the process or do we need to wait for the process to
complete?
Can some one clarify
Thanks
Rajan
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] Viewing effective Balances
From: "William C.Stratton" bstratton@sprynet.com
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 08:15:21 -0400
Since balances are dynamic and not actually stored, a formula can reference
any balance that has been updated from a previous formula. You can see
this happen when you study a deduction formula that uses the percent of
earnings calculation rule. It references a balance called
REGULAR_EARNINGS_ASG_GRE_RUN that includes all regular earnings that were
calculated during the current run.
Bill Stratton
BOSS Corporation
Better Organization Service Solutions
6455 East Johns Crossing, Suite 404
Duluth, GA 30097
770-622-5500 (V) 770-622-5400 (F)
http://www.bosscorporation.com
View Fiscal year Balances
Subject: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: "Lewis Cunningham" LCunningham@gwmail.valencia.cc.fl.us
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:32:31 -0400
Hi all,
Here's the situation:
Oracle Payroll, Apps v11.0.20, DB 8.0.4, full suite of financials and
HR/PR.
The system is up and running. The element is Regular Salary. The
regular balance dimensions are all working. My client needs to track
fiscal year totals. According to the documentation, I can set a fiscal
year start date and payroll will keep track of fiscal amounts.
The problem:
For the business group, I entered the correct date. I added the
already existing dimension "Assignment Fiscal Year to Date" to the
regular salary balance. This is the seeded element and balance, this is
the first ever change to it. The regular dimensions are still working
great, fiscal doesn't show up at all.
Does anyone have any idea of what I might be not doing or doing wrong
or in the wrong order, etc, etc? Even if you're not positive, at this
point I wouldn't mind hearing educated guesses.
Thanks,
Lewis
Subject: RE: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: "Schwartz, Ken" kschwar@rwjf.org
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:03:41 -0400
Lewis:
My best guess is that since the element you are using is Regular Salary, you
cannot make it into a fiscal year element as much Oracle standard payroll
processing is keyed to a calendar year and this is THE seeded element for
salaried employees.
Regards,
Ken Schwartz
Independent Consultant
Specializing in Oracle HRMS
Site: 609-720-7529
Cell: 404-226-6334
Mail: kenschwartz@mindspring.com
Site Mail: kschwartz@rwjf.org
Subject: RE: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: "Lewis Cunningham" LCunningham@gwmail.valencia.cc.fl.us
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:19:33 -0400
Actually, I still want it to calculate the regular dimensions like it
does. I just want to be able to track fiscal in addition because of
some other requirements.
Lewis
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: Manny Wohiren Manny.Wohiren@yale.edu
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:11:01 -0400
Lewis
I am sure l can help. But I don't truely understand your question. U
mentioned that u entered the correct date. Where are u entering this date?
On the screen or calling get_balance_pkg?
Regards
Manny.Wohiren@yale.edu
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: "Lewis Cunningham" LCunningham@gwmail.valencia.cc.fl.us
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:16:49 -0400
I'm entering the date in the business group classification in the org
description form. There's a field for fiscal date. Then I check the
balances in the database and the normal dimensions are there but fytd is
not.
I added the date there because in the docs it says:
Note: To hold balances for a fiscal year that is different from the
calendar year, you must supply the fiscal year start date for your
business group. See: Entering Business Group Information: page 2 - 26.
Thanks,
Lewis
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: "Lewis Cunningham" LCunningham@gwmail.valencia.cc.fl.us
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:21:05 -0400
Is it possible for a balance to be calculated all the time and not
stored in a table? I don't have access to sql*plus yet so I can't run
the pay_balance_pkg.get_value. I've just been looking in the balance
table using TOAD.
Lewis
Subject: Re: [orahrms-l] PR: Fiscal Year Balance
From: "Lewis Cunningham" LCunningham@gwmail.valencia.cc.fl.us
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 11:56:14 -0400
I kind of answered my own question. I figured out how to execute a
pl/sql block in toad and actually called the get_value procedure.
Payroll is calculationg FYTD, it's just not storing it in the latest
balances table. 2 day's I've been trying to figure out why it wasn't
working and it has been, AHHHhHHH!
Thanks for ya'lls input,
Lewis